tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10325967.post7527159862938381646..comments2023-08-09T09:44:13.292-04:00Comments on Reality by Evidence: Zygotes have Rights Too?Jerry Wilsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05466226925773904805noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10325967.post-58688223660832413952011-12-17T08:25:32.830-05:002011-12-17T08:25:32.830-05:00Your arguments are ad hominem because they are bas...Your arguments are ad hominem because they are based solely on your own moral convictions and not on the actual topic at hand - women's rights and the value of a fetus. You are begging the question because you start with the assumption that a supernatural entity not only exists but that it created all of us with intrinsic value and also has plans for our immortal soul. That is quite an Jerry Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05466226925773904805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10325967.post-8373054086859441022011-12-17T05:51:12.101-05:002011-12-17T05:51:12.101-05:00A fetus is not a seed. It is a distinct, whole, li...A fetus is not a seed. It is a distinct, whole, living human being. Therefore, not analogous. And I thought we agreed that a fetus was already human? <br /><br />Ad hom? Whoa, that's a bit out of left field for me lol. Could you pinpoint exactly where I've committed an ad hom? And where am I begging the question exactly? <br /><br />Ok, so thoughts and memories are necessary conditions Adrianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00116217768741837292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10325967.post-85101525436016333862011-12-15T17:48:56.043-05:002011-12-15T17:48:56.043-05:00A seed has no value aside from its ability to prod...A seed has no value aside from its ability to produce another whole plant. The plant has intrinsic value because it can be consumed or admired. In the same way, a fetus has no value other than its potential to grow into a human being. If you have, say, a pea seed and you really love peas, then it will have value because you can plant it. If you hate peas (or hate gardening) then you would Jerry Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05466226925773904805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10325967.post-19596338880193486902011-12-15T01:45:52.490-05:002011-12-15T01:45:52.490-05:00" Neither of them have sentience, memories, h..." Neither of them have sentience, memories, human feelings, or anything else that makes them human." This the crux of your argument because this is your criteria for human vlaue. This shows that you do understand the abortion debate btw. If the unborn don't qualify by this standard youve put up, then it isn't valuable and therefore is not much different than having an appendix Adrianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00116217768741837292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10325967.post-66805627565806799632011-12-15T01:19:08.890-05:002011-12-15T01:19:08.890-05:00"“Isn't this how the law works?”
Absolut..."“Isn't this how the law works?” <br />Absolutely not. If I forced the law to comply with my wishes, nobody’s rights would be infringed." <br />So when you vote, are you not forcing the law to comply to your wishes? Even if what you vote for doesn't get through, what the other party wishes get the law to comply. <br /><br />" I would not be forcing abortions on those who Adrianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00116217768741837292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10325967.post-9391564564829048182011-12-12T16:08:45.153-05:002011-12-12T16:08:45.153-05:00“Isn't this how the law works?”
Absolutely no...“Isn't this how the law works?” <br />Absolutely not. If I forced the law to comply with my wishes, nobody’s rights would be infringed. Nobody would have fewer rights than they do now. I would not be forcing abortions on those who didn’t want one. The only right that would be infringed (according to some) would be that of the fetus itself. But I contend the fetus has no rights other than whatJerry Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05466226925773904805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10325967.post-19570040147959414132011-12-12T03:54:37.701-05:002011-12-12T03:54:37.701-05:00Of course I dispute your uses of scripture to supp...Of course I dispute your uses of scripture to support your position. You expect this and say, "But that just go to show you can't really use the bible to prove a point, because on every single topic you're debating, the bible takes up multiple positions and is basically useless as a tool to prove a point." That seems to assume that multiple interpretations of scripture are Adrianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00116217768741837292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10325967.post-85329558177854023822011-12-12T03:54:00.424-05:002011-12-12T03:54:00.424-05:00I know this is a bit late, but I just discovered t...I know this is a bit late, but I just discovered this blog. <br /><br />I take issue with a lot of what you say here, so maybe I can provide some food for thought. <br /><br />"It really pisses me off when a certain faction of society tries to limit the rights of everybody else by trying to force their own limited view of morality onto society as a whole." (you repeated a similar claim Adrianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00116217768741837292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10325967.post-67366017323441953702011-10-20T14:35:08.625-04:002011-10-20T14:35:08.625-04:00Pro-lifers always pick out partial bible quotes to...Pro-lifers always pick out partial bible quotes to prove their point and they're always taken out of context. For example, in Jer. 1:4-10 it says the lord "...formed thee in the womb." Most Christians cite that as meaning he formed and knew everyone while they were in the womb. But the Lord is speaking specifically to Jeremiah whom he created to be a prophet and leader. If we assumeJerry Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05466226925773904805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10325967.post-10346078169105124022011-10-20T13:27:12.143-04:002011-10-20T13:27:12.143-04:00I'm not going to hit every point here because ...I'm not going to hit every point here because I'm at work and just waiting for an analysis program to load and writing on short breaks, but I fail to see how a verse citing a census proves your point that it's Biblical to say that you're not a person before you're a month old. I mean boys were circumcised on the eight day after birth. This was a symbol that they were Erin Jewetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10989159954074491430noreply@blogger.com